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Liverpool, England, England!

Across the Atlantic sea
And I'm a genius genius
And I believe in God
And I believe that God
Believes in Claude
That's me!

Well, not quite. I'm not Claude. I'm Pony. And my paper on Sacred Harp singing in Hyde Park just got accepted to the British Forum for Ethnomusicology conference, in Liverpool, in April! I get to go to England to present!


. . . um, so is there anyone on my f-list who can tell me something interesting about Liverpool? I've never been there.


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Jan. 15th, 2009 06:42 pm (UTC)
Awesome! Have a great time:) (Any chance I could read the paper? Or would it be unintelligible for those of us outside the field;)?)
Jan. 15th, 2009 06:47 pm (UTC)
I have been told by shape-note singers that the paper is completely intelligible to everyone, which was one of my goals. I have some revisions to make to the presentation version, but after those are done, we can certainly talk.
Jan. 15th, 2009 07:13 pm (UTC)
I'm happy to wait. I'm very curious to read it, especially after the debacle last year with that woman who had been to half a sing and then wrote about shape note singing!
Jan. 15th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
Well, we'll see how it goes at BFE, and then I'll see what I can do about getting the revised presentation version out.
Jan. 15th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
No problem. Seriously, have a great time over there!
Jan. 15th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
Will do!
Jan. 15th, 2009 07:54 pm (UTC)
Oh wow! Congrats! That's wonderful. You genius ;-)

Wasn't daw in Liverpool on her last trip or did I imagine that?
Jan. 15th, 2009 08:03 pm (UTC)
We'll have to ask her when she gets back.

It's always wonderful to see the "proposal accepted" e-mail in your inbox. Somebody wants to hear me speak!
Jan. 15th, 2009 09:09 pm (UTC)
It's the 'Capital of Culture'. To say that's an oxymoron is an understatement! It was the home of the Beatles, in my opinion the only good thing to have come out of Liverpool ;)

Congratulations, Pony! It's fantastic news - well done :>) Will you go there and head straight back home, or will you have chance to travel? To Devon, perhaps?


Jan. 16th, 2009 03:41 am (UTC)
I knew the bit about the Beatles, but that was one of only two things I know about Liverpool. (The other is that the residents of the city are called "Liverpudlians" for some reason.)

I've been poking around at maps to find out where exactly Liverpool is in relation to other interesting sites in England. I won't have time to do extensive traveling at all; this conference is the week before our big gamelan concert. But depending on how plane fares work out, I may get a couple of days.

Now, Devon. (You pronounce it DEH-v'n, right? Because there's a street in Chicago with that name, only it's duh-VAHN Avenue. It's where all the good Indian restaurants are.) I think that's a county, yes? In the little sticky-out bit of southwest England? That doesn't look particularly close to Liverpool. Or to London. I have to look up where flights from Chicago would land in England, and how close I could get to Liverpool by plane. How far apart are Devon and Liverpool in real-people-traveling-time?
Jan. 17th, 2009 06:28 am (UTC)
Love the geographical descriptions!

You could probably fly to Manchester quite easily - and that's only fifty miles or something from Liverpool. Liverpool has its own airport - John Lennon - but I don't know how many international flights land there.

Devon's not far on a map - compared to distances in the US - but there's a lot of stuff in between and it can take hours to drive it.
Jan. 17th, 2009 01:25 pm (UTC)
Well, the first thing was that it took me a few maps to figure out that Devon was a county rather than a town or city (or street). My colleague here at the U of C who's from Liverpool also suggested the Manchester airport, especially because there are direct flights from Chicago to Manchester, and there are trains that run every half hour according to her.

I don't think I'll be making it down south on this trip, alas, alackaday.
Jan. 15th, 2009 11:09 pm (UTC)
Jan. 16th, 2009 03:36 am (UTC)
Thanks! I am really excited about this. Possibly a bit too excited, but hey, England! You don't get to go there every day.
Jan. 16th, 2009 12:40 am (UTC)
Oh I am so jealous! I never got to present anyplace nearly that cool! Congrats!
Jan. 16th, 2009 03:35 am (UTC)
Thank you! I'll try to take some conference pictures. And they said that there would be some sightseeing time, too, so I can take a look at Liverpool.
Jan. 16th, 2009 03:39 am (UTC)
Mazel tov! Maybe you can work in an anecdote about the time when Obama came to sing at your house because he wanted to emulate Lincoln.
Jan. 16th, 2009 03:58 am (UTC)
Thank you! I really should work in something about Obama, shouldn't I? Cathryn suggested that I contact one of the British singings to let them know about my presentation.

And thank you for listening to and commenting on the dry run on Saturday. The presentation will be much improved for that.
Jan. 17th, 2009 02:18 am (UTC)
*is jealous* Of the visiting Liverpool part. I was/am a major Beatlemaniac. Although many of the places associated with them have been demolished, even the Cavern. (Strawberry Fields might still be there.)

The River Mersey is still there, of course. And lots of Irish. Liverpool was a major departure point for many Irish emigrants--"It's not the leaving of Liverpool that grieves me/But, my darling, when I think of thee"--but some settled in the city as well.

More, later, as I dig it up/remember it.

You also should give a nod to Robert Browning: "Oh to be in England, now that April's there."

repeats *is jealous*
Jan. 17th, 2009 03:46 am (UTC)
One of my fellow grad students is from a suburb of Liverpool, and she says that the Cavern Club is still there, but it's become a dive for skanky old men. I'll have to look for Strawberry Fields, though. She also says that England in April will be rainy, but I can deal with a little rain.
Jan. 18th, 2009 03:47 am (UTC)
...Cavern Club is still there, but it's become a dive for skanky old men.

Vague memory stirring. I think the deal was that they were planning to close/demolish it, there was an outcry, and so it was kept open in another capacity. Probably not worth dodging the skany old men for though.
Jan. 18th, 2009 06:38 am (UTC)
I might poke my head in if I have some time. Or not, as the case may be.
Jan. 20th, 2009 10:48 am (UTC)
Congratulations! Sounds like you're in for an exciting time.

I can provide an Americanised version of Liverpool - they talk funny. :o) Because of their location, they have an accent that mixes English, Welsh and Irish. It's very throaty and phlegmy (not trying to sound insulting... it just is). YouTube has some good examples. Liverpudlians (that's "Liverpoolians" - even though there's a D in there, it's nearly non-existent in pronunciation) are also called Scousers (rhymes with COW-sirs).

Wales is just a jaunt away, as well as Chester, which I've heard has a very nice zoo. Most major cities have a decent train service and public transport (and much cheaper than American trains), so you should be able to get around okay. I believe there's also a ferry point near Liverpool that would take you to Ireland, et al if you have the time.
Jan. 20th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
I shall look forward to hearing the accent. But I don't think I'll be able to travel around much. I have to be back in Chicago for a gamelan rehearsal on Tuesday, and I don't think I can afford to stay in England much longer than just the conference itself. But the conference itself will be a blast all on its own!
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